Tuesday, March 12, 2013

Apathy in Godot and Se7en

Why were we humans put on this earth? Are our lives just a show for some greater power? Beckett explores these ideas in his tragicomedy, Waiting for Godot. The play follows two characters, Vladimir and Estragon while they wait for a man who told them to wait for him at a spot under a tree. Waiting for Godot, by Samuel Beckett is a portrayal of humanity as a play. The play represents the never-ending wait for God and how God told us to wait on this spot of the universe, called Earth. Throughout the play we see Vladimir and Estragon go about doing random things just to keep themselves from getting bored while waiting for a man named Godot to meet them at their spot under a tree. While reading this play, the reader may think, "What is the point of all of this?" Well the answer to this question, even though it is rather cynical, is that the play is trying to show that our lives are just a gigantic play on God's stage in which we are puppets made for God's entertainment.
Vladimir and Estragon bring up the theme of apathy in the play in Act II when they see Pozzo, blind at this point, fall and do nothing to help him up until he calls for help multiple times. From this example, we can see that Beckett is trying to present society as the reason for this apathy. The theme of apathy can also be found in David Fincher's movie Se7en.

For those of you who have not yet seen this movie, it is about two homicide detectives that are hunting a serial killer who uses the seven deadly sins as his method of operation.

In the movie, the serial killer who is known as John Doe brings the idea forth when he writes this quote,

What sick, ridiculous, puppets we are. What a gross little stage we dance on. What fun we have dancing, fucking, not a care in the world, not knowing that we are nothing. We are not what was intended."

Doe also believes that everyone in society has become so apathetic to everything around him or her that if you want people to listen, “you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll notice you've got their strict attention.” Even though Doe is psycho, he has a point, people today have gotten so apathetic to the world around them that it is hard to just grab people’s attention or to get people to listen to you.

One of the detectives in the movie, Detective Somerset, believes in this apathy. He says that people would much rather “eat cheeseburgers, play the lotto, or watch television.” This is true because I sympathize with what Detective Somerset is saying. I would much rather eat a cheeseburger or play videogames than do schoolwork. I would much rather play basketball, tennis, or soccer than study for a midterm or final.  The funny thing about this is that I know I am not the only one who would do this. I know that I am not the only procrastinator here. Perhaps a reason as to why we have become so apathetic is our technology. Our technology has advanced to the point of where it has overlapped our humanity and there is no need for so much human interaction. People can be entertained endlessly through the Internet and social networking that there is no need to leave the house and have actual face-to-face conversations. Another reason for this could be our society. Our society is built upon what is easier. Apathy is the easier route. Caring for others takes time and is more difficult than just caring for yourself. We always decide to pick the easier route because, well, it’s easier. Even though the ending to the movie is pretty depressing, there is still a lesson to be learned here. The lesson is that we should not be apathetic; we should be open-minded and listen to the thoughts of others, but if we care too much, we might end up destroying ourselves in a blind fury.  


6 comments:

  1. I agree completely with the argument you are making with this post. As bad as it may sound to others, I agree with some of the things that Doe says, and I think he is making a great point about humanity as well. We take advantage of the things that seem more convenient to us, which is why humanity has become so lazy and self-indulgent in technology and materials that make our lives simply easier. People nowadays look blankly into their smart phones, computers, technological devices, rather than the world that surrounds them. It is disheartening to think about what this world has turn into.. At least Morgan Freeman is still alive.

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  2. I really enjoyed your connection between the play and the movie se7en. I think you are absolutely right that the play demonstrates the theme of apathy. Also, though I hate to admit it, I also think you are right in that God, if he exists, created man for no other reason than for his own entertainment. I agree, however depressing it may be, that life is meaningless. Also, though I have not yet seen the movie, it seems from the clip you provided that the theme of apathy is also present in Se7en. I must say that your thoughts on how people choose apathy to make life easier are truly profound. I never thought of apathy as simply a way out of working hard. Anyway, great post.

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  3. Apathy is a common theme not only in the book and film, but in our lives. We lose our humanity and take advantage of what keeps us away from face to face interaction and appreciation of what we have in the world apart from technology. Yes, we appreciate technology to the fullest, but I don't really agree to the fact that "we are puppets and God's entertainment." I believe Godot (God) has them waiting for some other reason. It could be to learn more about themselves, to grown on their own, or any other reason. We were all put on this world for a reason, to grow, embrace God, and love one another. There's so much humanity can offer. We are swayed with apathy, but apathy doesn't take up the whole population. I definitely agree apathy is a theme, but there is always more we can add onto it and how we look at the stories. :)

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  4. Sorry about the color of the text, all I did was copy and paste from word. I have no idea why the text color is different in some parts.

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  5. I think this is a really good comparison. I totally support your argument and I think not many could argue with it anyways. Technology is such a blessing to have, but it comes with major thorns. We are having now problems relating to eachother or conversing with each other face to face. And it kinda reminds me of the good Samaritan in the Bible where only one man took care of the fallen, beaten man. Many people are so blind to the world around them- or do not know how to face it. It is heartbreaking to see apathy gaining more power slowly as the years progress.

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  6. I think it is arguable they are waiting for God. Godot is described as a man with a white beard—sounds more like Santa. I’m saying that because God in Christianity does not to my knowledge, which is almost none but still, have a white beard. Besides, Godot is never directly stated to be God. I guess you should state it is arguable that Godot is God or state that he represents god IMO. I might disagree with your statement that they do random things. Aren’t we all doing random things? Is there even such a thing as “random.” I would also say though that yes randomness or chance is a thematic in the play because they talk about the 2 thieves and make it seem like it was chance that one was sent to hell and one to heaven if that was even the right interpretation…on that note, it seems like by chance we favor one particular interpretation of that story. Chance happens when the tree gets leaves randomly…is it even the same tree as the day before? Wait, I thought you said God was Godot? If they/we are on his stage, what makes him able to see us…oh I guess that is just assumed. But why is that assumed? It seems like there is no evidence that God/Godot is watching them; please comment. I don’t know if the not helping Pozzo is apathy or just representative of the theme of meaninglessness—it wouldn’t matter if they helped him because nothing matters anyway so why waste energy? I do recall they talk about “wasting energy” btw. It may also follow the theme of indecision—they seem to want to help Pozzo and consider it, but they are unable to decide just like how they are unable to decide to leave the tree or get up when they fall on Pozzo. I think it may also follow the theme of lack of willpower, which may be linked to indecision. So no I don’t think it is apathy. Actually, I just looked up the definition of apathy and don’t really understand the definition but it seems to be a term that more correctly supports your statement than I first realized. Wowaweeah! Don’t use the blue color for writing; I can’t easily read it! I like the “we do it because it is easier” method of analyzing human behavior because it is an interesting tool. What defines easier? If someone works all day every day doing something they do not like, maybe it is easier for them to do that than for them to just sit down, say “I’ve had it” and get fat. Maybe it is easier to study extremely hard for finals and do tons of homework than to try to escape the structures of power that are imposed by our family and civilization—if we didn’t do what was hard/easy, then we might end up having to do something that is actually harder than before, and maybe it is this fear of doing what is hard that drives us to keep doing what is easy or perhaps what is hard but not as hard as stopping. Excellent piece. Congratulations to you! What a super job.

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